Natal Aspects: The Sun & Venus in hard aspect — Sun Semi-Square Venus, etc.
| November 1, 2011 | Filled under Astrology, Aspects, Natal |
Sun: Self, light, brightness, creativity, essence, life force, the day (everyday).
Venus: Love, money, beauty, the arts, self-worth.
Square: 90° Causes tension, agitation, weightiness, obstacles to overcome. Has a Saturnian feeling.
Semi-Square: 45° Half a square but not half the meaning. It’s more like — half the time. Semi-aspects have been experienced as ‘on and off’ and because it’s not ever-present, that could make it ‘minor’ in some astrologer’s eyes; however, it’s a higher harmonic and therefore has an importance to the overall well-being of the native. And a semi-square can be close to a Novile 40° and other harmonic aspects. The astrology program used may not factor in harmonic aspects. Has a Uranian feeling.
Novile: 40° The request here is to overcome your restrictions to manifest self-enhancement. So if you actually have a Sun Novile Venus, the request here is to be more self-loving and allow the Sun to shine on your Venus — perhaps over-the-top self-loving, and unabashed ego. This is your destiny, if you will.
The semi-square asks for steady harmony and friendliness — all balanced, nothing over or understated. Just be YOU. You be you and I’ll be me. That’s what the semi-square is asking of you.
Sun Semi-Square Venus
Possible manifestations…
May also have meaning for Sun Semi-Sextile Venus during their *off* periods…
- Like Venus Leo, Sun Taurus out of harmony
- Denial of self-love, money, or beauty. Hard to accept money for services, compliments for beauty and personality.
- Beautiful and charming but that causing problems and agitation so can become self-destructive / destroy charm & beauty.
- Being overweight or underweight or prone to it. Not dressing to make oneself look their best.
- Artistic temperament that gets messed up with other people’s judgements
- Retail therapy. Spending money to feel better about self.
- Your father may like you a lot (like a friend) yet you may have problems with him at times throughout your life because of some side he took that offended you.
- Your father may have influenced your career choices. There might be some ugly truth about your father that you rather disown.
- A relationship with others helps you love yourself more. You may think others don’t like you because you are not beautiful, successful, or valuable enough for them or that you are too strong, direct, and unusually confident and sure of what you want out of life (even if it’s hard to get).
- You prefer soothing people and people who are soothing instead of picking fights but fights and arguments may erupt anyway.
- Sometimes you find yourself popular and then not. Popularity seems to go in cycles and your effect on others is hot & cold. (Uranus… Saturn’s son)
- You may get along better and be appreciated more by men but you seek admiration from women. Approval from women can help you feel beautiful, worthy, and successful.
- Not attracting love, money, beautiful or confident people. Must have or do for yourself before others will give to you.
- Excessive and irresponsible sense pleasures causing tension and difficulty.
- Getting a sense that you are not worth anything unless you are financially well-off and/or sharing your riches with others.
Do you have this aspect? How does it affect you? What goals do you have to overcome this problem and what can you do to support that?
Example
Goal
I want to feel better about myself. I want to: 1. lose weight, 2. get a fashion make-over or dress up nicely everyday, 3. be selfish, 4. Ignore Schadenfreude. I was/am beautiful and my beauty was/is taken away by jealous people because I didn’t want them to feel bad themselves. I downplayed my beauty in everyday ways.
How will I meet my goal?
- Take a little time out for myself everyday. Self-pamper, play with myself, have fun!
- Smile often. Feel and be alive. Feel that I belong to the world and my happiness, makes them happy.
- Know that I’m part of the beautiful people. Act like a beautiful person.
- Develop affirmations. i.e. I am loveable and other people feel love from me because I am.
- If I doubt myself in self-care: 1. Think, 2. Be positive, 3. Re-affirm.
- Contemplate and investigate what others have to say about Sun Semi-square Venus
- Do some self-love.
What Others Say
- Vedic Horoscope Delineation
- A Western Horoscope Delineation focusing on money and ego.
- Another Western Horoscope Delineation
- And another…
- Another brief delineation
- And another…
At the time of writing this article, there isn’t / wasn’t much written on the Internet about Sun Semi-Square Venus. What I did read was quite negative, un-supportive, and misses the mark (I believe). While what they say might be true, they are not digging deep enough to understand the root problem or pain that the native with a Sun-Venus (in hard aspect) goes through. This native is literally hard on themselves and that might mean they are hard on others too but one way to get out of that is to stop being so hard on themselves.
Notable People
- Princess Diana – Sun Cancer Semi-Square Venus Taurus (mysterious death)
- Britney Spears – Sun Sagittarius Semi-Square Venus Capricorn
- Jimmy Hoffa – Sun Aquarius Semi-Square Venus Aries (mysterious death)
- Angelina Jolie – Sun Gemini Semi-Square Venus Cancer
- Bill Clinton – Sun Leo Semi-Square Venus Libra
- The Marchesa Luisa Casati – Sun Aquarius Semi-Square Venus Pisces
- Jack White of White Stripes – Sun Cancer (16°52′) Semi-Square Venus Virgo (0°)
- David Bowie Sun Capricorn Semi-square Venus Sagittarius
- Friedrich Nietzsche Sun Capricorn Semi-square Venus Pisces
- Martin Luther King Sun Capricorn Semi-square Venus Pisces
- Freddie Mercury Sun Virgo Semi-square Venus Libra
- Cloris Leachman Sun Taurus Semi-square Venus
- Liz Greene Sun Virgo Semi-square Venus Libra
- Theodore Roosevelt Sun Scorpio Semi-square Venus Sagittarius
- Keanu Reeves Sun Virgo Semi-square Venus Cancer
- Carlos Castaneda Sun Capricorn Semi-square Venus Aquarius
- Sean Connery Sun Virgo Semi-Square Venus Libra
- Anna Nicole Smith Sun Sagittarius Semi-square Venus Libra
- Clara Bow (Flapper icon) Sun Leo Semi-square Venus Gemini (note, she had Saturn Rx right on her Ascendant illustrating her ‘lack of growth’ that she turned into a positive!!… “A petite, flat-chested, big-lipped dynamo,” www.1920s-fashion-and-music.com/flappers.html
- Hunter S. Thompson Sun Cancer Semi-square Venus Gemini
- Oliver Stone Sun Virgo Semisquare Venus Scorpio
- Agatha Christie Sun Virgo Semiquartile Venus Scorpio
- Isaac Newton Sun Capricorn Octile Venus Aquarius
- Richard Nixon Sun Capricorn Semisquare Venus Pisces
- Barbra Striesand Sun Taurus Semisquare Venus
- Jeane Dixon Sun Capricorn 14°05′ Semisquare Venus Sagittarius 0°48′
- Debbie Reynolds Sun Aries Semisquare Venus Taurus
- Michael Jordan Sun Aquarius Semisquare Venus Capricorn (side-note, he has Jupiter Sextile Ascendant. I find Ju-Asc natives are either larger than life, very tall, and/or very big.. the sextile provides opportunity because of that size, for example)!
- Napoleon I Sun Leo Semisquare Venus Cancer
- Helena Blavatsky Sun Leo Semisquare Venus Cancer
- Alexander The Great Sun Cancer Semisquare Venus Virgo
- 14th Dalai Lama Sun Cancer Semisquare Venus Leo
- Al Capone Sun Capricorn Semisquare Venus Sagittarius
- Steve Jobs Sun Pisces Semisquare Venus Capricorn (Apple icon, obsessed with design and beauty of machinery)
- Robert Plant Sun Virgo Semisquare Venus Libra (note, he also has Saturn Rx on the Asc but like Clara Bow was known for his size… except it wa the size of his huge package that he was known for. 😉 Guess Saturn Rx doesn’t always come in size ‘small’ though upon further inspection the length may be small but the other bits certainly are not!) “Robert Plant, ugly? Â Â er…um… Â no? Â Yes,. Â No! Â Yes? Â Hell I don’t know. Â Personally I do NOT think he is ugly. Â If only I could look like Plant! Â I’d be a stud!” http://en.allexperts.com/q/Led-Zeppelin-501/ting.htm Sun Semisquare Venus natives are at once, praised and insulted about their looks. :/
- Cloris Leachman Sun Taurus Semisquare Venus Pisces
- Abraham Lincoln Sun Aquarius Semisquare Venus Aries
- Nicole Kidman Sun Gemini Semisquare Venus Aries
- Stevie Wonder Sun Taurus Semisquare Venus Aries
- James Dean Sun Aquarius Semisquare Venus Capricorn
- Jessica Hahn Sun Cancer Semisquare Venus Leo
Oddly, I haven’t found a Sun Libra semi-square yet. 😉
After pouring over the charts of these notable Sun Semisquare Venus, I see the natives as being awkwardly sexy and charming. There’s something about them that is ‘off’, yet there is something that draws you into their appearance too — they are attractive, in their unique way but there’s something uncomfortable about being attracted to it. Sun-Venus is like Sun Libra / Taurus and Venus Leo. There also seems to be some gender bending — Men either are overly macho on the outside, but super soft when someone gets an inside peek (maybe even cross dressing) or they are super feminine on the outside and masculine on the inside (see David Bowie!). Same goes for the women.
The majority (if not all) of these notable people would be considered attractive, successful, and worthy! Listen to the song below and think of these notable people, people you know that have this aspect, or yourself. They had / have two sides — what the public sees and what is a reality behind-closed-doors (though the public might learn of it through dubious means – ie paparazzi or gossip).
Did you ever wonder why Britney Spears shaved her head all of a sudden? Or why Princess Diana had an eating disorder and why was Angelina Jolie accused of starving herself? Did Bill want to prove his worth, power, and sexiness by sexing it up with Monica Lewinsky? Jimmy Hoffa was so enigmatic that if he wasn’t for you, you would be against him.
Note: The Sun and Venus are never more than 47.8° apart.
Possible Aspects
Conjunction 0°
Quattuorvigintile 15°
Vigintile 18°
Semi-octile 22.5°
Semi-septile 25°42’51”
Semi-sextile 30°
Undecile 32°43’38”
Decile 36°
Novile 40°
Semi-square 45°
Septile 51.428571°
I see aspects, as requests or opportunities. The planets, as having plans. The signs, as style (and how they carry out the plans of the planets). The chart, a series of questions. Your whole natal being, a quest.
Signed,
Jucy “There is no such thing as minor anything” Arthur
Smashing Pumpkins, Ugly
Billy Corgan has Sun Semi-Sextile Venus. As mentioned above, semi-anything means the aspect isn’t always active but when it is, it’s felt. For example, a Sun Semi-Square Venus can go to the spa every month but not pamper themselves until then. So Billy can understand a Sun Semi-Square Venus native because although he is loved, feels attractive, is good with his money, etc… it’s not always — on & off and because of that when he’s ‘off’ it’s like having a semi-square!!
I don’t look in the mirror
I don’t like what I see staring back at me
Everything is clearer
I’ll never see what you see
It’s not me
So beautiful and free
I’ll never be what you need
Can’t help at all
I was born so beautiful
But now I’m ugly
And I rot in my skin
As a piece of me dies everyday
I know I’m nothing
I know there’s nothing I can say
To change
The judegment in their ways
I’ll never be what you need
Can’t help at all
My love was so beautiful
But now I’m ugly
Yeah…
I’m good enough, but I don’t care
I’m good enough, but I’m not there
I’m good enough, but I don’t care
The sun is out, but I’m not there
I’m good enough, but I don’t care
The sun is out, but I’m not there
I’m good enough
I’m good enough
I don’t look in the mirror
I don’t like what I see staring back at me
Everything is clearer
I’ll never see what you see
And I rot in my skin
As a piece of me dies everyday
I know I’m nothing
Because I’m ugly
Jack White, White Strips – I’m as Ugly as I Seem
I am as ugly as I seem
Worse than all your dreams
Could ever make me out to be
And it makes me want to scream
When it’s halloween
And the kids are laughing
The rogue is a bank he’s never broke
But worth as much as a joke that no one is laughing at
Can you believe some things are not
Appealing and there’s a spot
On the ceiling of my childhood bedroom
And can these dreams you can’t imagine
Will never match the vision
That you had decided for me
You are to take away from me
Things that are mine and it’s not your right
Out that you’d wouldn’t expect to find out
Can it be that I don’t want what you want?
And the only thing I could care for
Is a place in a home that is safe and warm
Safe and warm, safe and warm, safe and warm
Judge yourself if you feel the need
Just let me known to be
In search of the truth myself
There is a drop of blood on the ground
And it seems to me that it’s not my kind
And I can’t be sure if it’s yours or mine
I am as ugly as I seem
Worse than all your dreams
Could ever make me
Could ever make me
Could ever make me
Could ever make me
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